WEEKEND OPEN BAR: Sequel Superiority!

August 11th, 2012 by Rendar Frankenstein

[WEEKEND OPEN BAR: The one-stop ramble-about-anything weekend post at OL. Comment on the topic at hand. Tell us how drunk you are. Describe a comic you bought. This is your chance to bring the party.]

It was during the 8th century BCE that the Greek poet-Jedi known as Homer detailed the events of the Trojan War with the Iliad. An impassioned narrative of a conflict between kings, warriors, gods, and mortals, Homer’s epic poem has been celebrated since its inception. However, the readers who stop after reading the final line of the Iliad (“Thus, then, did they celebrate the funeral of Hector tamer of horses.“) has only treated themselves to half of the story.

The second half of the tale comes in the form of the Odyssey, an epic which follows Odysseus on his dangerous voyage home. Odysseus is a hero of the Trojan War (like the Trojan Horse? Yeah, that was his idea), but he’s slipped into a slick puddle of shit-luck. As such, his return to Ithaca has been delayed by incredible storms, man-eating monsters, an encounter with Polyphemos that ends with being cursed by Poseidon, the allure of Sirens’ songs, and more than a few battles. Oh, when Odysseus finally gets home, he has to figure out how to kill all of the assholes that’ve been depleting his estate and trying to court his wife.

But don’t worry – Odysseus pulls it off, and in style!

“’Dogs! You thought I would never come back from Troy, so you have been carving up my substance, forcing the women to lie with you, courting my wife before I was dead, not fearing the gods who rule the broad heavens, nor the execration of man which follows you for ever. And now the cords of death are made fast about you all!’”

Not only is the Odyssey a mythological tour de force that’s still read and studied and imitated today, it’s also the first documented sequel in the history of narrative. And it’s bad-ass. Hell, many believe it to be equal, if not superior, to the Iliad.

Sure, there’s an argument to be had that most sequels are cheap cash-grabs that capitalize on the popularity of great works. There’s no denyin’ that much of the direct-to-video market is built on this premise. But with the Odyssey having been established nearly three thousand years ago, there’s a time-tested precedent that sometimes sequels are worthwhile continuations.

So here’s our topic of discussion: What is your favorite sequel?

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While it’s not the only sequel I love, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Ghostbusters 2.

I know that there’s a decent amount of criticism for this movie. Many claim that the movie is just a rehashing of the original, with the Ghostbusters once again being called upon to save NYC while facing opposition from city officials. In both movies, the critics maintain, there’re a slew of lesser-ghosts to be handled while the true spectral threat looms in the background. There’s also an argument that by the end of the second movie, the characters haven’t developed a whole heck of a lot.

And I can’t necessarily counter these claims.

But after spending fifteen minutes trying to tap out an explanation as to why I love Ghostbusters 2, the best I can present is – it’s funny. It is, really. I find myself quoting this sequel more than it’s predecessor, and in turn I go back and watch it more as well. I think that this movie is like going back on a roller coaster with your best friends – sure, you may have a rough idea as to which way the track bends, but that doesn’t mean you’re not going to scream when you hit the drop.

I’m not making sense. This whole thing has been short but pointless.

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What is your favorite sequel?

  • TomDanks

    I’m torn between two, Terminator 2: Judgement Day and Mad Max 2 aka Road Warrior. Both of these movies had huge impacts on my view of sci-fi and my eventual love/obsession with the inevitable dystopian wasteland of the future. They are also, imho, better then the originals/

  • http://www.omega-level.net Caffeine Powered

    Are we going esoteric right here? ‘Cause two generations of geek lore has confirmed Empire and TDK as the bestest most wild and lovely sequels of all time, though as Sir Danks points out, T2 makes a ridiculously strong charge.

    If its esoteria, I’m throwing my lot in with….I just spent like five minutes (no lie) thinking. I have no idea. 99% of sequels are just fucking rotten retread garbage.

  • http://www.omega-level.net Rendar Frankenstein

    I think that Terminator 2 will always be my barometer for action movie excellence.

    Also, I’ve had a theory that T2 and ALIENS are both so good because they took elements from their originals and slid them across the HORROR aisle and into the ACTION corner.

    Just a thought.

  • JohnnyHotsauce

    Term 2, TDK, Empire…all worthy noms. Godfather II. Toy Story 2 takes the trophy, though. Those films are all pretty close to perfect.
    Big ups to Gremlins 2, James Ellroy’s American Tabloid sequel “The Cold Six Thousand,” and the Back to the Future flicks…

  • TomDanks

    Back to the Future 2 was a dope ass flick. Im stil waiting for my god damn hover board.

  • TomDanks

    TDK is definitely top one or two sequels and it may have the best acting of any sequel of all time (I may be biased due to my undying love of all thins the Caped Crusader).

  • TomDanks

    I think you nailed it.

  • MORS

    big ups. only criticism is that i think gremlins 2 is weak. Gremlins is one of my favorite christmas movies ever and g2 can’t compare.

  • MORS

    road warrior for the win

  • seth

    I think the godfather part 2 is the best sequel of all time. My other picks for best sequel are bride of frankenstein, T2, back to the future 2, the good, the bad and the ugly, toy story 2 and 3, aliens, road warrior, superman 2, spiderman 2, xmen 2, the return of the pink panther, empire stikes back, star trek 2, 4 and 6. I like ghostbusters 2, I agree it,s good and funny but I feel that the cartoon was always the true sequel to the first movie. I know alot of horror fans don,t like nightmare on elm st 2 but i always have thought it is a good sequel that has a bad ending. nightmare on elm st 3 is the best sequel of the nightmare series. friday the 13th part 6 has always been my favorite of the friday sequels. the original halloween 2 and 4 are my favorites of thehalloween series. for book sequels, the hound of the baskervilles is one of the best sequels of all time.

  • http://www.omega-level.net/ Eduardo Pluto

    Great suggestions, everyone. I would just like to humbly offer up Before Sunset as another solid pick. Where Before Sunrise dreamily plays on the youthful and romantic notions of the protagonists, it’s in Sunset where shit gets real, when the two are brought down to earth, and it is still really satisfying. Supposedly, another movie in the works; hopefully it lives up to the first two.

  • http://www.fiveanddimecomics.com/ The Dude

    There have been many mentioned that I love, such as T2, Road Warrior, and Aliens, so I’m gonna try to hit some of the lesser mentioned sequels I love.

    Wayne’s World 2
    28 Weeks Later
    Dawn of the Dead (Original … Zack Snyder can go to hell!)
    Die Hard 2 and 3
    Mission Impossible 3
    Indiana Jones (Temple and Last Crusade)
    Desperado
    Highlander 4 (Screw you all, I liked it)

  • Codyssey

    Rendar, I fuckin LOVE the Odyssey. I just read its entirety for the first time last summer.

    You guys have already said the best of the best. But my ultimate is Empire!

  • https://twitter.com/#!/pdensborn Peter Densborn

    ALIENS!

  • JohnnyHotsauce

    Great pick!

  • http://www.omega-level.net Caffeine Powered

    Holy shit, 28 Weeks later! Yes. Love that movie.

  • seth

    the original dawn of the dead is a classic movie and great sequel and I,m going to show some love to day of the dead. Yes day is nowhere near as good as night or dawn but it,s still a good movie. I liked land of the dead and hope some day we get to see a good ending to what has been a mostly great horror series.

  • http://www.omega-level.net Caffeine Powered

    I’m with Danks, I think that is a perfect explanation.

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  • TomDanks

    HAHAHAHHA! That shit is great, love old Ali G

  • http://www.omega-level.net Rendar Frankenstein

    How sick is the Odyssey? I actually just read it, and I routinely found myself laughing aloud, pumping my fist, and yelling “OH SHIT!”

  • TomDanks

    Why wasn’t Michael Biehn a bigger movie star? He was in some of the most iconic action films of all time, like Aliens,Terminator, the Abyss, and Tombstone, but he was never a superstar like the Willis’ and Stalones.

  • TomDanks

    Literally just saw the Simpson’s ep Homer’s Odyssey and thought of this post.

    http://www.cucirca.com/2010/01/10/the-simpsons-season-1-episode-3-homers-odyssey/

  • http://www.fiveanddimecomics.com/ The Dude

    Don’t forget Cherry Falls or Navy SEALS!

    Michael Biehn is one of those guys that I’m always aware of in a movie and I have exactly the same thought … “Where have you been?” despite the fact that he works regularly.

  • http://www.fiveanddimecomics.com/ The Dude

    I read the Odyssey when I was a young lad and had an obsession for the Greek Gods. It remains today a favored story in my heart. Now if I could just find my damned heart …

  • https://twitter.com/#!/pdensborn Peter Densborn

    Odyssey is classic. Iliad too.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/pdensborn Peter Densborn

    He probably has made mad loot, and no one ever recognizes him anywhere he goes.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/pdensborn Peter Densborn

    Cosign on DogFather. Greatest sequel ever status.

  • http://www.omega-level.net Rendar Frankenstein

    I actually like Gremlins 2.

    It’s goofy and meta and all over the place, but that really hits close to home for me.

  • Codyssey

    Yeah man I love when he just starts flinging arrows at the suitors toward the end. I also grew to love how Homer would describe the wonderful gifts and ceremonies over and over in a near identical fashion.

  • http://www.omega-level.net Rendar Frankenstein

    I fuggin’ lost it when Odysseus had to lay the smackdown on the shit-talkin’ beggar. The dude thought Odysseus was a bum, talked mad garbage, and then gets laid out.

    And to top it all off, Odysseus drags his ass outside of the hall and sets him up there:

    “’Sit there now, and keep off the pigs and dogs. Don’t set up to be Monarch of all the Beggars, you miserable wretch, or a worse thing may come upon you.’”